Saturday, May 15, 2010

What is the best martial art between kung fu, karate and kickboxing?

I have done all of these systems and have my own views, but I%26#039;d love to hear what others have to say. Is shaolin superior to shotokan, is wado better than muay thai, is semi free sparring equal to full contact, is cage fighting the ultimate test or the ultimate insanity?|||Katana 17 and Mushin%26#039;s answers mirror my own as I%26#039;ve answered this type of question so many times in the last 15mths,its now becoming boring as I%26#039;ve had to reinstate my account twice and my last answer is the same for this one...





None! They are all useful





Its what you can adapt to and use.





The man makes the style not the style the man.





All are tools to be used.|||It%26#039;s not the art, it%26#039;s the practitioner and teacher that count.


The truth is, there really isn%26#039;t a %26quot;best%26quot; martial art style. It all depends on what you are looking for, how effective the teacher is at training you, and how hard you work to perfect your skills. Some martial arts styles stress street combat, others stress sports skills and competition, others stress internal energy or chi, while still others are traditional arts that stress perfection of technique, self discipline and etiquette.





The best style out there for you is the style that helps you meet the goals you have set for yourself, and that pushes you to take your skills to the next level. If that means full contact training, then you need styles that can give you that. Just because a style doesn%26#039;t focus on whatever it is you are interested in doesn%26#039;t make it a bad style, it just makes it not the right style for you. Be wary of anyone who says otherwise.|||Quite honestly as far as from a self defense aspect none of them are superior. It also depends on which style of each you are talking about. Is it a karate that is taught for sport or reality? Is it from a good school or a McDojo.





Many people do not realize it but Traditional Okinawin karate, if it has not been watered down and is taught correctly, has much more then just blocks, kicks, and punches. It contains knees and elbows, most of it%26#039;s kicks for self defense are kept very low, it has moves for fighting in a clinch or grappling range, as well as many locks, throws, take downs, and chokes. Some even have ground fighting techniques. In fact if you watch a good traditional Okinawin fighter, he will look a lot like a Muya Thai fighter, with some of the throws, locks, sweeps. take downs, and chokes of Judo.


Okinawin Karate also has intense body conditioning. Does this make it better then Kung Fu or Kickboxing? No not at all.





Cam111 misses the point. Judo is not better then any of the other ones you asked about, maybe just more applicable for certian situations. Judo really contains no strikes, so it rely%26#039;s upon you to survive getting close enough to get hold of your opponent. What happens if you do get hold of a skilled karate-ka that knows how to counter throws, sweeps, and take downs, all the while pounding you with knees and elbows, or a Muya Thai fighter or Kung Fu stylest that is doing the same.





The point is that all styles have their strengths and weaknesses, and far more important then style is how you are taught, how hard you train, and what you train it for. Any of the styles you mentioned are more than adiquate for self defense if trained correctly.





In the end the style does not make the fighter, the fighter makes the style.|||Once said %26#039;There are no superior styles, only better fighters.%26#039;


Really is down to the individual to have an open mind. If you stay closed to grappling in striking arts, then when you end up on the floor. It%26#039;s game over.


Stay to grappling and not learn striking. How are you going to know a good strike in order to avoid it?


I practise ShotoBudo style of karate. Which does explore all these areas. We encourage speed, skills, movement, balance, strikings, countering, grappling, take-downs, ground work.


A grappler myself and practised for long times wearing a hit to land one. Now in my training my guard has improved to allow for parry to grab. Also confident enough to strike in order to open up for a take-down.


Of course i like to train with others to compare strengths and weaknesses. But found nothing so far to offer a wider view on self-defence.


Hope i don%26#039;t sound arrogant.|||kickboxing is not a martial art - its a reduced form of tai boxing which is a martial art.





kung fu concentrates to much on apearances for no genuine purpose - it was derived from gung fu a good system and more fluid.





karate is good but to solid and infexable a form.





no martial art is perfect - its the fighter not the martial art.





jeet kune do is the best in my opinion and there are a lot of others i would recomend.|||in me i am studying our family style kung fu, and thats a secret. Buts its kung fu. But well some people just want to study kung fu of because of jet li. bruce lee, and jackie chan in the movies. But they do not know the principles of what is the meaning of kung fu. So as i am watching some videos and personal sparring at malls. I always laugh at them the moves are terrible, jumpings kickings, counter atack, pit points hitting, but i recognize that they just hitting without analizing because that in our family style we pretend kung fu as an math a problem need that perfect timing to kick run house kick when to punch when to move away. those people are just like performiong an dance intermition number, acctualy they use kung fu without balancing the fist, the enemy gonna attck you hard you must counter attack him soft, if he attacks you soft attack him hard so that the yin and yang energy will be balance or the positive and the negative energy, aka external and internal.|||Karate is good for discipline and competitive people - kickboxing is great for fitness but little else and kung fu is good for flexibility if you choose a shaolin style or street self defence if you choose wing chun kung fu - type in any of these in google and you will be there all day looing through the info but will help to make an informed choice.





alternatively try each out and choose from experience|||dude, whats better? vanilla chocolate or strawberry,





or apples, oranges and pears.





you can%26#039;t compare as there are too many intangibles- namely the fighter themselves, the school they train at and thier coach/teacher, thier training methodology and experience.








some schools tend to train more realistically than others, but to get into that is beating a decaying horse.|||It is not the art that makes the man (or woman), it is the man that makes the art. Proper training of an inferior art (attributes, sparring, etc..) is preferable to improper training of a superior art.|||None of them are good compared to judo!but out of those would have to say kickboxing more real more brutal actually works in a fight like judo.|||From experience, i really enjoyed karate (wadyru) and did it for seven years, it gives you good discipline and is great with self deffence.|||I think Karate is better than kung fu and kickboxing.......|||I think you could do with some tai chi to calm down.|||katana hit the nail on the head, i cannot give a better answer than that|||well you see i would have to say either kung-fu or karate because im all about speed|||in my opinion kung fu is best|||muay thai is the best.

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  1. It's the martial artist not the martial art

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