Monday, May 17, 2010

What is a better martial art / self defense to learn: Jujitsu or Kung Fu?

I want to train in something that is more reversing ones aggresion against them as opposed to attacking. Although sometimes, attack is inevitable. And of course, I want to be able to use the martial art for meditation as well.|||You can learn Jujitsu much faster than Kung Fu.





To learn Kung Fu properly may require DECADES!





EDIT:


re: some of the other posts...


If you are just learning fighting techniques, then you are not learning Kung Fu!


.|||I%26#039;d suggest contacting a school of each style and ask if you can watch a class. After you watch just make up your mind. As far as meditation goes, it depends on the school. I%26#039;ve had 3 kung fu instructors so far and not one of them taught that sitting in the lotus position type meditation.|||try judo i have always wanted to try judo i hear it makes you hard seriously think about it you have to actually submit and throw people in the class|||either. depends on how you act with the knowledge because at the end of the day you have the choice on how and when to use it no one else, not even your master can brainwash you into using any other way than you want to. Learn both if you need to but you%26#039;ll probably enjoy jujitsu for its reversals more. look for traditional jujitsu.|||Both will teach you what you want to learn. However Kung Fu will generally teach you more of the meditation aspect.





And please don%26#039;t listen to all the idiots that say that forms are not a necessary part of learning to fight. Forms are not patterns or dances, they are (when practiced by a skilled practioner) a highly developed form of shadowboxing. They are a way of drilling complex patterns and are used to focus the mind and body to use these skills as an instinct, people are not born able to stand, or crawl or walk or run, these skills are learnt, now we are so well practiced at it that we take it for granted. Does anyone in their right mind now discredit the importance of shadowboxing? Ask a boxer if they would take shadow boxing out of their training routine and see what they say.|||After watching Royce Gracie dominate the early UFC%26#039;s, I%26#039;m all for Brazilian Jujitsu. There were even some kung fu guys in the early UFC%26#039;s but they didn%26#039;t do so well. The problem with kung fu is that it is too complex and it relies too much on forms and such. I suggest going with jujitsu.|||Sounds like you%26#039;d like Aikido, it uses your opponent%26#039;s strenght against them, it also has a good spiritual side, so meditation is part of it.|||you want meditation go do yoga





or watch south park its the same thing as a spiritual experience.





however when it comes to fighting you shouldn%26#039;t be deluding yourself about limiting your techniques.





Ok, in a real fight maybe you aren%26#039;t as comfortable hurting someone, but better him than me.





However if that is your attitude then I would suggest a form of grappling or groundfighting like bjj or sambo over traditional jiu jitsu or even judo.





BJJ and sambo have many ways to incapacitate someone that are submission based (which means if you pull them off to thier ultimate conclusion you will break bones/joints, but it is slow and steady enough, usually, that they are effectively subdued).





It is not the art that is %26quot;better%26quot; nor is it the %26quot;person%26quot;.





it is the TRAINING METHODS and teacher that make a person more able to apply thier art to a realistic situation where someone is trying to hurt you and vice-versa.





juijitsu depends on the gym/dojo, kung fu (or chinese martial arts, CMA for short) tends to have a larger number of %26quot;fake%26quot; teachers who pretend to know, and never train with resistance so they don%26#039;t really know if thier techniques work.





anything works when you are against a compliant opponent. you want to find a school that generally throws you against NON-compliant opponents.





bjj, sambo, judo are knonw for this as they are sportative arts and MUST train against resisting opponents. traditional jiujitsu, and cma may or may not.





There are cma gyms that do this, there are juijitsu gyms that don%26#039;t.





odds are you will find a jiujitsu gym that does LONG before you find a cma one especially if you are not in a large city like ny chicago, boston or vegas.





(Yes, I know about la, however I chose to ignore it)|||both are good, complex systems with deep histories. It%26#039;s like asking do I want a cheescake or an apple pie?

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